Fred-Rick
3 min readJun 30, 2023

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Excellent reply, Ira. I can see you are getting into the details of the model.

Let me take one step back here first and point out that the washing machine has two different outcomes: fast spin, nothing in the center; slow spin, laundry spreads also toward the center.

That is therefore one aspect to keep in mind: What is the speed of the spin!

On planet Earth, the planet itself is a dominant reality, the hurricane relatively small compared to the planet. Matter is therefore dominant in light of the wind force, but matter is not the immediate source for the wind force (wind force is not the same as gravity). Let's not discuss this in detail, but move on to the galaxy.

In a galaxy, we have masses distributed in a larger singular setting and the individual gravitational realities of these masses are the basis for the specific outcome in the center of the galaxy. Indeed, in the Black Eye model this is an enormous depression with certain activities associated with it.

That means we have to separate four outcomes already: the speed (causing two distinct outcomes) and matter itself (single entity, collective of entities).

So, I am happy that you are digging deeper into the various aspects, Ira. But I had to discuss this first so we do not get into a discussing where we lose sight of what we are discussing.

The washing machine and the eye of the storm help us discuss the reality of the Black Eye model. They are not fully applicable, yet show important aspects.

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Planet Earth's gravity is as follows (and a planet is again not the same as an enormous distribution of masses in a galaxy):

At the surface, gravity is strongest because the entire planet is pulling in the opposite direction.

Move halfway into the planet, and gravity will still pull toward the center, but there are more pulls in other directions, including the pull from the area between this spot and the surface where we started out at first.

In the center, there is a net-zero reality for gravity. It does not mean that there is no gravity, but rather that it is pulled in all directions in such manner that we have a net-zero outcome.

Now, let's get back to the galaxy with its distribution of masses. Gravity will show an interplay among all these masses, and while that can be relatively weak for individual masses, there will be a collective to this gravitational reality.

The situation is then that we must still put that net-zero in the center, but we should then also discuss if this is an enormous depression with pulls from all directions of the galactic disk, or if this is an invisible mass with its own realities. Both models can be correct, though one only will be correct once we have the final evidence in hand.

For the Black Eye model, the enormous depression will have a net-zero spot in the center, but not around that center: it will be a Wall to the Eye.

If a planet happens to fall into that Eye, it will get shred to pieces -- not shredded by the Eye but by the forces of the Wall. Note well that the planet has to fall into the Eye for this result. A planet (or star) can also be pulled toward the center and then circumvent falling into the Eye and sling away from it instead.

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For the Eye of the hurricane, it matters if we review the behavior of a butterfly or the behavior of a truck. The butterfly will have let go of its hiding spot long before the Wall of the Eye of the Storm arrived, yet the truck is heavy and cannot make decisions for itself. The truck will be in the path of the Eye and Wall and it can get picked up and thrown around like a toy.

Thank you, Ira, for your good thoughts.

Are there more questions that come to mind? I have the feeling you can see both models better now, is that correct?

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