You are not well-versed when it comes down to the facts that the Big Bang is based on, Bkuehlhorn. Your words read for me that you can't see the difference between the facts and the proposals.

The oldest data we have is the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation.

The Big Bang is prior to the oldest data we have.

The Big Bang theory is a model; it is not a fact.

The facts are:

* CMBR

* Red-shifting of light

There is no other data that gets anywhere close to being near the actual moments of the materialization process.

When you say that the Big Bang is about the appearance of energy, then you are not following the data.

Some scientists (and not all scientists) are saying that everything appeared indeed when matter appeared. They do not have any data to support that.

It looks like you drank their cool-aid.

I won't say anything more about the Big Whisper until you understand what is being said about the Big Bang. When you talk straight about the Big Bang, then we can talk about other models. Right now, you are repeating words you heard about, but you do not understand the underlying data.